Südostdeutscher Fußballverband

[silvermane]

Yes, and I must apologize for that - I hope you believe me that there have not been any intentions included that you regrettably hear or read from the "Bund der Vertriebenen" here in Germany about regions in the former german east. I am definitely NOT of that political opinion!

No offense taken - I did not think about this being related to the BdV 

The problem is, that these would be the wrong filenames for these two logos, what you can easily prove only by reading the text shown on the logo itself.

Of course, but these logos do not belong here - they were certainly not used by these clubs while they were members of the DFB.

Yes, and that is the only logo I use in all seasons in my database. But as you can read here AKS Chorzów can be correctly tagged as a legal successor of FV Germania. So I merely want to mention this fact in the "Mannschaften verwalten" function in DFS for means of completeness. And only there the AKS logo is used in my DB, as I think correctly.

What I don't understand is why you have AKS Chorzów under ID 1 000 000 163, separately from the pre-WW2 VfR/AKS/Germania Chorzów (ID 1 000 000 038, with the correct logo). What is the purpose of this entry?

I thank you for this information, since my research on this club supplies contradicting results. Especially from what is written here you can come to the conclusion that Bismarkhütter SV 99 stands in the sequence of Ruch Chorzów.

Ruch was founded on April 20, 1920 in Bismarckhütte (the name "Hajduki Wielkie" was not officially used until 1923), as an exclusively Polish club. It was soon affiliated with the Polish FA and started playing regional championship (A klasa) qualifying matches in July 1920. The competition proper started in December 1920, and Ruch finished third. In 1922, it won the regional competition and debuted in the finals of the Polish championship.

Bismarckhütter Ballspiel Club was founded in 1908 and merged with Ruch on January 7, 1923 (the name was changed to Ruch BBC Wielkie Hajduki). BBC brought in a better quality pitch (the so-called "Na Kalinie" or "Hasiok"), which Ruch used until 1935.

When WW2 started, Ruch was first dissolved, but in November 1939 got reactivated as Bismarckhütter Sport Vereinigung 1899 e.V. (mostly with the same players), under which name it played until 1945 in Gauliga Oberschlesien. Legally, though, it was a continuation of BBC rather than Ruch, because BBC was a member of the DFB until 1922, when it found itself in Poland. Together with over 140 other clubs, it was a founder member of the Wojewodschaft Fußballverband (WFV), a short-lived association of German clubs in Polish Upper Silesia.

By the way, Ruch does not mean "Vorwärts" in German, but something like "Bewengung" (cf. Widerstandsbewegung = resistance movement).